"If China was a member of the OECD, this would be an honor for us!"
Secretary General of the OECD since 2006, Angel Gurria, 61, has been renewed for a second term of four years as head of the organization in 2010. Former Minister of Finance, Budget and Foreign Affairs of Mexico, he managed an iron hand the consequences of the Mexican crisis of 1995. He is an ardent supporter of the enlargement of the OECD to emerging countries.
LE FIGARO. – What is the OECD today? Is it the think-tank of globalization?
Angel Gurria. – No this is not a think-tank! It is an intergovernmental organization dedicated to the promotion and implementation of better policies for a better life. We observe, measure, comparing the data, draws conclusions, which are transformed into policy proposals. It covers all the topics of economic, social, environmental.Only exceptions: military defense.
In fifty years, what do you see as the greatest successes of the OECD?
We just updating the code of conduct for multinational enterprises, written fifty years ago and upgraded several times! Among the findings of the OECD, I quote: the principle of "polluter pays" principle, the objectives of the Millennium Development Goals, the issue of scarcity of natural resources.There are also investigations on education Pisa (Programme for International Student Assessment, Ed) which are a bombshell in the world's lowest-scoring, or the anti-corruption convention, which gave rise to new legislation in Russia, Israel, Chile and the United Kingdom! Finally, thanks to the OECD, bank secrecy for tax evasion is dead …
The great weakness of the OECD is it not the absence of sanctions?
The power does not lie in the ability to punish but to convince. No international organization can not really impose sanctions on Member States, apart from the European Union fast cash advance loan. But the EU is a special case: the Member States agreed to dispose of part of their sovereignty, which is not the case at the OECD.Nevertheless, our country reports, our rankings and our method of Pisa "name and shame" (literally "name and shame", Ed) on taxation are feared by the Member States.
Does it matter that the G20 countries are not all OECD member?
No! We work with Brazil, China, Russia, India, South Africa or Indonesia daily on all subjects. They are asking for reports. They participate in our work. Of course, it would be better if they were full members because they participated in our decisions, but we are not looking to become a universal organization. Efficiency does not depend on the number. The important thing is to have the views of major emerging issues of global concern.
What would prevent China from being an OECD member?
Nothing! She can start accession negotiations tomorrow, if she wishes.The OECD was invited as a privileged partner in 2007, with a membership perspective. At the approach to it, decide if it wants to become a member or not. For us it would be an honor and a privilege. Then, in the end process, it will be for Member States of the OECD to decide if China meets the political criteria and techniques …
Should we restructure, reschedule debt Greek?
The decision to go to a debt rescheduling Greek does not seem bad. This gives time to digest Greece for its adjustment measures. For contracts, grant a repayment is the lesser evil, which does not reduce the principal amount of the debt. When this was discussed at Ecofin, last week, lenders have responded well: the yields of the Greek debt eased. The markets were reassured.